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Dissolvable Plastic | Should We Use it in Our Products?

When we develop products, we stick to these 3 principles:

  1. It has to biodegrade (that means it will decompose into reusable nutrients)
  2. It has to have an eco certification (meaning the ingredients that make our products are 3rd party accredited, so they are best in class for you and our planet)
  3. It’s gotta be plastic free (both to reduce the carbon footprint and, again, to biodegrade)

When we started developing our plastic free liquid dish soap, we wrestled with what plastic alternatives we could use to store it.

The first option we explored was PVOH, PVA, or PVAL - otherwise known as Polyvinyl alcohol.  

PVA/PVOH gained popularity with Dishwasher pods and has since been used to contain a variety of Dishwasher, Laundry detergents and Shampoos for a number of ‘eco brands’, including both 'pods' and also 'laundry sheets', which are becoming increasingly popular.  

PVA/PVOH is technically 'plastic' because it is pliable - bendy and stretchy - but it's not the same plastic as a plastic bag because of what happens to it when it contacts water.

Many companies claim PVA/PVOH is ‘biodegradable’, but when we started digging deeper, this ‘eco-claim’ wasn't so cut and dry.

Why?

PVOH DOESN’T ‘BIODEGRADE’ IT ‘DISSOLVES’

In our research, PVOH does not biodegrade so much as it dissolves into a "non-harmful" monomer, and while those molecules can biodegrade, the time it takes for them to actually biodegrade is a little foggy.  Years, decades, 100 years or more?  Our research wasn't able to provide any conclusive timelines. 

Advocates for PVOH say this is not a problem and it’s a lot better than having mounds of 'solid' plastic floating around the ocean, but it still is leaving ‘something’ behind.  We just don't yet know the impact - if any - of having increasing amounts of these molecules floating around our waterways.  That said, our research to date does not suggest that those molecules are what we you would think of as 'micro-plastics'.

PVOH IS OIL BASED = NOT CARBON NEUTRAL

The other challenge with PVOH is that it is derived from petrochemicals (oil based and therefore against dev principal 2).  That said, right now, it's really hard to avoid petrochemicals - hence why we are in the climate crisis we are currently in - because even most 'plant based' cleaners (including our own) contain small amounts of petrochemicals.  

 

WHY BEESWAX PODS?

Given the unknowns about biodegradation, long term impacts and the reliance on petrochemicals, we chose not to use PVA/PVOH and instead developed our own pod made from all natural materials.  Materials we were already familiar with from our other products - beeswax, soy wax and naturally occurring oils and resins.


What’s great about natural materials is that you don’t need a pile of research to figure out if they decompose - you can just toss them in the earth and know they'll go away.

BUT THERE'S A FLIP SIDE TO OUR BEESWAX PODS
  1. They cost moreR&D is time consuming and expensive.  We are still in the early stages of developing our pods and there are many improvements to be made - both from the design/materials and the manufacturing - and so that means we can't make them as cheaply as their PVA/PVOH counterparts.
  2. There is still 'waste': While the pods are natural and they can be repurposed, reused and composted, there is still 'waste' left behind.  PVOH on the other hand just dissolves.

When it comes to 'price', we did come up with a work around through the Plastic Free Club, but we feel that if we really want to make a change, we need to hit the MASSES and that requires a major drop in the price.  

And this has led us back to a core question.  Should we re-visit PVA/PVOH?

It’s definitely a step forward from traditional plastic, and we're already exploring an improvement that could see a similar film made without oil, but that is a couple years out (at best).  In the meantime, we are left deciding:

SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP OUR OWN ‘WAX SOAP-PODS’ OR SHOULD WE INCORPORATE PVOH?  JOIN THE CONVERSATION, COMMENT BELOW.

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Comments


  • Good question! I love that I can just throw it in my compost as is and would way rather have waste that I can dispose of safely than continue using petrochemicals. At the same time, to appeal to people who aren’t already composting or trying to limit their waste, having something that leaves nothing behind would reduce things potentially ending up in the landfill that could decompose naturally. If sticking to online sales, I definitely would vote for keeping the wax. Particularly for Etee’s plastic free club I think it’s more appropriate.

    Merissa on
  • I’m torn. Our children’s future depends on idealistic groups investing in the development of new technologies, but the planet is suffering so badly now from continued dependence on oil and on the prevalence of plastics. If you can give consumers a less harmful plastic option now while still pursuing the ideal, that would seem to be the best compromise of the day. After all, truly meaningful change doesn’t happen overnight. Thank you for sending the poll.

    Candice on
  • My preference would be not to use plastics in any of your products even if it’s dissolvable. I try to avoid packaging in general and really limit my purchases of products in plastic. Thanks for all you do.

    Jennie on
  • Higher cost for products that are non-damaging to our environment is an argument that has to be eliminated from our areas of concern – the cost of the continued destruction will be far greater. What is the waste associated with the beeswax pods? Some of the biodegradable plastic alternatives are made using Kelp – how does this impact the kelp forests in the oceans? Biodegrading process of some products leaves carbon – how does that impact the environment?

    Eliminating “plastics” 100% will prove to be difficult because we no longer live in a society where we grow, trade, make what we require. Developing and using alternatives that have no impact on the environment after use is critical. If you find a product that works and there is no negative post-use impact of that product, then that must be your choice.

    Regards,

    Elaine Smith on
  • Honestly, even with the drop in price I’m skeptical that it would help you reach “the MASSES.” I think etee is in a similar situation as early Tesla, where you want to start out selling a premium product and steadily work your way to cheaper ones. Most people stick to what they’re used to, except for the smaller proportion of dedicated followers (like me) who are generally both willing and able to pay higher prices for premium products.

    If you compromise on one product to reach out to the masses, that may scare off some of the more puritanical followers from all of etee. I’ll stick around, but I worry some others wouldn’t.

    Derek on


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